There were also some questions prepared in advance of that. We haven't done lots of them quite like that. Probably through, if it's just discrete lessons that's great. But when it flows out the other side, for us if you've got them going in this enterprise project and it takes two months to complete, three months, six months, whatever. It's not really flipped because it's ongoing, isn't it? So your always continuing with the work that you're doing at school, and it's really engaging from home. So I, I, what I do is I pick up snippets like that. If think, yeah, we can do that, we can embed that. Sometimes there's been, you know, I, I'm trying to get greater use one note in the school. Cause one note you can host and say share for platform, but you open on all of your devices and you embed a video. You make some notes. It's all a collaborative tool, and you don't save it, you don't email it, you don't share it. Your just part of the one note Collaboration. And you know, I met school there today who is doing math quite a bit, and you think I'd like to go see that. Or there's another school from Cheltman who are doing QR codes, and they've got a lot of their displays linked with QR codes, which is something we've been talking about and going to do. And I think, yeah, it'd be good to go and see how they're doing it. And, what I probably don't see is the breath and depth of investment over the years that we've been doing it. >> Mm. >> So a lot of ours is very joined up across the curriculum. So we could look at science, and we've got a whole raft of technology and ways in which we using it in science. Whereas for a lot of schools, they've got, that'll be their project, that's what they're good at, that's what their doing. So, I always learn lots of little things from them. But I don't often come away and go I've got it wrong, we need to change our practice. And actually, I think that's quite a shame, because in some senses I think we probably have done more of it further down the road. I'm not trying to be, say we're better, although we've done it all perfectly. They haven't done things we haven't, but in terms of a journey we're further down the road. Therefore we probably put more in than we get out, in some instances. >> It's quite hard to see that unified practice over a long period of time, by visiting a school just for a short time, or seeing on some website, something they've done. That takes a more in depth analysis in a way doesn't it? >> It does. Mm-hm. >> So one of the things we're wondering about, is how to help teacher's share that kind of more in-depth experience. So, is it a longer case study, is it something like a project report? Is it, a design for a sort of curriculum area? What would help schools share that kind of depth of their practices experience? >> Do you know, I think that the, perhaps the most powerful way, and I've answered this before, is if we look at trying to get teachers to harness new technologies, whatever they may be. And if I want teachers to do One Note, I'll do a bit with them to demonstrate, or show them that. It never makes it happen for them. The way it makes it happen for them, is when I, I get the children engaged in an activity. Your children? >> The children in the school. Here. >> Yeah. Yeah. I mean. >> Using OneNote, if that's the new thing I'm trying to get them to use, then the teachers by necessity get drawn into it, because there's an end goal. And I think people are so busy, seeing by today how few people came. That to take the time to watch a case study video, to really analyze it, any time people really do that is if you're at the initial stages of a big project. So, if people are going to build a new school, they say what do I want that school to be. They'll go and visit some schools, they'll, they'll watch some case studies, they'll dig deeper. But for schools that are set up and flying and busy. I'm not saying they don't look at case studies or they're not helpful, they are, but is actually by engaging one school with another, with another in this spoke approach on something real with a real outcome. So I really think if you had models of good practice that different schools could bring. >> Hm. >> But channeled it into something real. I, I don't whether that is possible but if you could facilitate. You know, I've talked about the enterprise, but there's a billion and one things isn't there. So one of the things I've, I'm going to be doing with a school in Holland and trying to get people onto, is we're going to do a, a video project where we're looking at let's say 10 documentaries example smoking. We can all look at the dangers of smoking, make a little fact tester and and, and analyze it. But if we were to make a documentary around smoking habits and trends, et cetera, here with our children, we then share that through a video library sharing stream, but we have got six other countries also doing that. Our children would suddenly see the attitudes towards smoking could be very, very different to cross those countries. I, one of the things I was talking about was traveling to school. And so the school in Holland, when I went there, we went on a trip, kids get off. Their kids get off the coach, they all jumped on a bike and cycled home. It never let our kids get off a bus and jump on a bike and cycle home. >> So if we got them to do a documentary around truffle. And you did that in a school in India, a school in America,. A school in Holland, because of the bikes, a school here, and you just watch one another's videos. What you would be doing is, is getting best practice from across the schools, but a shared project. We're looking at doing one similar, but based around photos and looking at our community. Getting children to take photos, and write captions then translating those captions by having a photo gallery. Then doing work back in your school, schools, base on that. What, what you're doing, really, is looking at, you could, you have a bit around the curriculum. You could have the bit around, have the technology mod support projects. You could look at shared planning between the schools. So you could still have your case study materials, you could still have the deeper sort of research led pedagogy behind it. But until there's a purpose... >> Yeah... >> It's always on the to-do list. [SOUND]. >> And in that way, children are learning from each other,. >> Yeah. >> Across the globe, but the teachers are learning from each other's children's practice. Yep. Because it... >> So they learn what you do and [CROSSTALK]. >> Yeah, because at the moment, when school says. I don't know really. It's a can open for coffee over there, >> Yes. >> Coffee, [NOISE]. >> Yeah. >> When the, the, when the school in, I don't know, Norway, says, look, we've done this really interesting thing on iPads [NOISE]. >> Yeah. And what I'd like to do is prepare a little webinar and share my PowerPoint with you, and they put it in my diary. My diary is so squeezed and stretched in a week. I want to do it. I go along to it. We might have a few language barriers, and then we might have a few broadband issues, and I turn up ten minutes late to it, because I got caught by a parent. And although they want to do it, it's really hard to make that sharing practice happen. But when you're saying I, to do my day job... >> Hm... >> I need to create this innovative curriculum for my... >> Mm... >> Stuff, my children, and they are going to work together to achieve this end goal. And all of a sudden, there's a purpose, other than just sharing your practice. [NOISE] The purpose is to create your practice to create great work. >> [COUGH]. >> So actually, in terms of the work around that learning gateway, and also with, they've developed this thing where you can create live lectures, and you can have all one class using, Webex through link, Marks of Link. I, getting schools into the same learning platform with the same communication tools, working on the same projects, suddenly would empower this collaborative working. Now, if we were to sponsor another school, so a school that's failing, and we were going to go work with them, it'd have to happen. Two schools at two distances we would join them. But when it's two successful schools, it requires the buying of the leadership to say that's what we want to do, and I think that will be an interesting thing to do. In fact at the global forum with Microsoft, they do a competition, and you have to put a pitch to say that the one winning school out of however many going will present their project at the global forum. So we're going to put ours in by the end of January I'll pitch. And I think what I'm probably going to do, is I want to take our enterprise approach act with all of the features that you would use in it so we want to make it global. [CROSSTALK] You would get the other side of it then. >> Yeah, so I want like, I don't know, 20 schools from off the globe, across the globe to enter a global enterprise project, so you create international companies. And that's my pitch to them. But that would be, actually, teachers from across countries sharing good practice, but with the vehicle of actually doing work with children not,. >> Mm-hm. >> So it's, I suppose what you'd call active research. Isn't it? >> Yes. It is exactly that, yes. So that's the, that is perhaps the most important way of getting teachers to share their best practice. >> Yeah.
