>> Whenever we talk I think about how hard you work.
I've often said that you work harder than anybody I know.
>> [LAUGH].
>> And- >> Thank you, Dick, but I-
>> tell, tell us about your job, and tell us about how if any,
if in any ways HIV enters the workplace, enters your work life.
>> You mean my current job or the jobs I've had since then?
because Meyer was fun.
Mine was working at Walmart.
That, that I almost got fired from Walmart a couple of times.
Well, one because of me be, being, my homosexuality.
But I I work, well now I work in a dairy cooler at Meyer.
I juice and milk.
I probably move about five to six thousand pounds every night of freight.
>> Working in the refrigerator?
>> Yep.
Very, it's ambient, 34 degree temperature.
I mean, I go out to break down my live load to bring into the cooler, but
I probably spend three to five hours of my day inside of a cooler.
>> And-
>> It's, it's, it's-
>> Do your, do your fellow workers know about your HIV?
>> I don't know who knows, because at this point in my life, I'm not too,
at this point in my life, I, I no longer care who knows.
I mean, it's not like I'm just going to go up to em and go and hey, I have AIDS!
It's not something I advertise, but if someone overhears a conversation,
a coworker, if, if, you know, something happens, it might slip out for
any reason, I'm not too concerned about people knowing.
I just don't want it to become some kind of like, office spectacle or
you know, I don't want anyone's pity.
I don't want anyone to be terrified of me either.
So I try to be selective of who I directly tell.
But I, I'm not, honestly, I'm not really sure who knows.
That might sound, that might be a bit terrifying, but
it doesn't bother me, honestly.
>> Have you experienced discrimination because of your HIV?
>> I've experienced ignorance where none should exist,
which can lead to people being unintentionally discriminatory.
or, or like the stigmatas.
I mean I haven't been like at my jobs, no.
My bosses are aware of the situation,
because if I miss too many days I can get fired.
And so I have medical documentation.
My bosses are aware of my situation.
I've never had a manager deliberately and directly treat me any differently.
I've had some managers who were more concerned than others about my health and
about my, the location of my work.
But, I haven't felt discriminated within my job environment because of my HIV.