So we're here in La Perla Bowl. [LAUGH] We started this project cuz I used to have my studio. You always have one. My studio used to be a skate park too. When we closed the skate park, people from the are having a ramp in the so they can keep skateboarding, and we actually put it, putting a ramp in these things. But knowing that it was going to get all fucked up cuz of the rain and the weather. And the idea getting all the stuff that is here, those people the debris from the, the houses in this part. So we decided to take all the debris, put it together, sounds simple, and make a ball. So we started this project in 2005, we finished it 2006. It was made with the help from people from DeBarrio. That's the most important thing I would say. So people from the community was involved in all the part of the project from In this water, where it was going to be to [INAUDIBLE] those materials and work on it and to showing us how to do it. >> Mm-hm. >> I learned here how to build in a [INAUDIBLE] >> With the people from the La Perla. >> Can you say just a few words about La Perla? Just- >> La Perla. [LAUGH] >> Yeah, just a few, I know you're a little- >> Yeah, so La Perla it's probably the most famous barrio or barria in Puerto Rico, it's a tiny favela. Outside the walls and it's the most, disadvantage socially, economically and it's being stigma, it has a social stigma of being the most dangerous and community in Puerto Rico. While the truth about the community is that it's really well ruled and it does have clear rules of not steal stuff, respect the older guys or the olds, respect to woman and kids. Those are the four rules in [INAUDIBLE], basic rules. And it's the community that receives tourism. From the Puerto Rican people and from the outside normally all the time. Because I came to [INAUDIBLE] which is pretty close to here so for me it was the place where I learned a lot of things that the university didn't give to me. It was a [INAUDIBLE] where I was. [INAUDIBLE] People won't accept any rebel idea. They will actually question my ideas [INAUDIBLE]. For me that was really important. >> So your strongest critiques are in. >> In actually yeah, about society, how to society, about how important to be or not. [INAUDIBLE] Now we don't, because I was telling people that we're working legally, but they were saying, no, I want this. My mom having this or that, I want. [INAUDIBLE] I mean not that being the most important so first thing I realized, it's including our history so there's [INAUDIBLE] and still it's [INAUDIBLE] here in the center of the tourism, in the sight of the governor's house, the mayor's house, the most historical part of Puerto Rico. And [INAUDIBLE] still resisting the government [INAUDIBLE]. [FOREIGN] For me they are an example. Also aesthitically, I love the [INAUDIBLE] And that's part of the reason why we are here. He thinks [FOREIGN] They are design things that have happened here that should be probably. Who then works facing out CTs or in our. [INAUDIBLE] doesn't want to move from [INAUDIBLE], I want to move out of my house I wanna move. I wanna living in all the places. Most people that's from my social middle class wants to move to this other side, or this other side. While people in [INAUDIBLE] in el centro still want [SOUND]